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Episodes:

Episode #1

The Founders Series

with Jeannie & Stewart Pickering

Episode #2

Child Development in the Early Years

with Anne Statham

Episode #3

The Founders Series

with Chris McGoff

Episode #4

Balancing Entrepreneurship & Being a Mum with Kate Mosley

 

Episode #1

THE FOUNDERS SERIES:

Jeannie & Stewart Pickering

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“If you believe you’re doing something right, you weave your way through with honesty and integrity” 

Jeannie Pickering

About Jeannie & Stewart:

This pair of hippies (really they lived in a commune in the 60s) who became entrepreneurs are sharing their incredible journey in our first Back To The Garden podcast. 

 

Everything they did came from a place of integrity and passion to create something that didn’t exist in this county. Starting with their first Kidsunlimited nursery in the 80s in Wilmslow, they then were the first company to create workplace nurseries, including collaborating with Anita Roddick, the powerhouse who founded The Body Shop.

Training was also vital and we’ll discover how they created a training that then became NVQ’s, allowing women returners to become empowered, this programme won the Secretary Of State award and is now part of the NVQ model. 

Design was key as Jeannie believes the environment is ‘the third teacher’. Working with renowned architect Roger Stephenson their innovative spaces won awards. They were part of the Hulme Regeration project creating the St Mary’s nursery making childcare accessible to the community there. They have strong roots and built something from humble beginnings and changed the face of childcare in the UK, ending up with 64 nurseries across the country.

Their drive came from pure passion to create the best possible spaces for children to grow and be nurtured. Drawing inspiration from the Reggio Emilia approach the goal was to have child was at the centre of their philosophy with a focus on creativity, outdoor play and treating each child as an individual.

This story is interesting to not only those in the childcare sector and parents but to anyone who has a dream. 

Yes, there were ups and downs but they came back fighting because it was all born from a belief with the child at the centre. Every step of the way each achievement came from a lack of something in the sector and this is why they were considered trail blazers who changed the future of childcare forever.

We discuss their incredible journey from Kidsunlimited to the present day where they now founded a new nursery, Back To The Garden Childcare with the McGoff Group.

 

Now, here they are as the ‘forever young’ elders. 
All elders have stories and this one is a real gem.

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“The nursery is a family of parents, children and staff.”

Stewart Pickering

In This Episode We Talk About:

1:21 Their earliest memory or a pivotal moment in childhood.

 

3:39 The reasons behind them starting Kidsunlimited and how they couldn’t find what they needed so they created it themselves. 

 

4:57 The Yin and Yang of working together as a couple and how their strengths complemented each other. 

 

5:43 The philosophy behind their creative approach where the child is at the centre and the importance of an a great staff team and environment. 

 

8:30 Breakthrough moments with a parents. We hear 2x stories of important moments where educating the parent is key. 

 

11:22 A time when they made a difference with a child - how they managed a child that really didn’t want to be at nursery and they share a funny story.

 

13:54 Why Wilmslow was chosen as the location for the first nursery, how they overcame issues with neighbours and achieved planning permission. The new skills Jeannie needed to develop in order to achieve this. 

 

18:05 What the biggest challenge was in the Kidsunlimited ‘early years’. The hurdles and resistance they overcame in order to grow.

 

20:15 The very beginnings of the workplace nursery in the UK and how this was the key to their expansion, why this allowed them to grow without needing to go back to the bank for more funding.

 

22:49 Working with Anita Roddick, The Body Shop founder. How Jeannie cold called her “selling purely on belief and passion that we could offer something they would want”. The nursery there was set up in 1993 with an environmental philosophy. At this stage the couple became almost pop stars in the childcare sector, featuring on breakfast TV and asked to speak at conferences. 

“Aesthetics are important for children, parents and staff. They all need to flourish and then it becomes a community.”

 

25:33 The importance of environment and design. How the Reggio Emilia approach inspired them. Each building has its own design. Jeannie’s trip to Italy to visit The Diana Preschool there. The ‘Home bases’ concept.

“Kids Unlimited, for example, won a RIBA award last year for its St Mary's Court Yard nursery in Manchester's Hulme regeneration area. Converted by architects Stephenson Bell from a burnt-out, but still elegant Victorian building, the nursery boasts such innovative features as a 'dance balcony' and a craft atelier.” - Jenny Benjamin, Nursery World piece Made To Measure, 2001

 

30:37 Architecture, working with Roger Stephenson and the RIBA Award. Finding inspiration in Holland and Germany. Introducing flow into spaces, the indoors to outdoors and the creative Ateliers. The Hume Regeneration Project where Barbara McLoughlin who ran the project said that Hulme ‘needs a nursery’. How they transformed a derelict church, against all odds, into a space which served the local community. It was an important time for the Pickering duo to balance their way of working and make great childcare available to all. It was about giving back. 

 

34:36 Growth and Training. How Kidsunlimited created an NNEB course for the workplace. They achieved a National Training award in 1990. Here they discuss the balance of college trained nursery nurses averaging age of 17/18 with women who have the experience of bringing up children themselves, having a balance of all ages and the attributes each age group bring, valuing all members of staff.

 

38:37 Leaps of faith and risk taking. In 1988 they almost lost the company and had to fight to protect it. Here we find out how they overcame this and the lessons they learnt. 

 

42:04 Family and Business. How to find balance running a business and having their own family with 2 children to look after. 

 

44:49 What was the biggest concern back then and how did they resolve it? Also the biggest concern now and their mission to resolve it for this generation? Here we discuss technology and outdoor play.

 

47:04 Work, Age and Retirement. In their 70s we discover what led the dynamic duo to re-enter the childcare sector after all these years and their views on retirement are.

 

48:41 Broadheath Nursery. The current nursery concept for ‘Back To The Garden Childcare’. The relationship with their co-founders ‘The McGoff Group’, a family run business, and how they worked together previously during the Kidsumlimited years on the Hulme project. Why the concept hasn’t had to change much since the 80s/90s.

 

52:07 Intergenerational Care. The McGoff group also run Care Homes (New Care) We discuss the benefits of Intergenerational Care - I referenced Bristol based David Williams, CEO of St Monica Trust who participated in ‘Old Peoples Homes for 4 Year Olds’ on Channel4.  I heard him on ‘The Road To Outstanding’ Care Podcast. 

 

52:37 Let’s talk Lymm. The 2nd nursery will be in Lymm. Which will be adjacent to an elderley care home. With shared areas for optional time spent together, for example growing veg. We discuss how The Tipi is a Back To The Garden signature piece.

 

54:07 Music and Lyrics. Why the name Back To The Garden was chosen and the meaning behind the name Kidsunlimited. 

 

55:30 Rapid fire series: 
- Their message to future generations.

 

- If money, logistics and time were no object what would they create for children. 
 

- What universal lessons could be taught to children all over the world? Jeannie referenced The Dalai Lama quote: "If every 8 year old in the world is taught meditation, we will eliminate violence from the world within one generation.”
 

- The biggest myth around child development. People underestimate the power of a babies mind. We referenced Babies on Netflix. 
 

- What rights children should innately have.
 

- Their Favourite book on child development, parenting or business. The ‘100 Languages of Children’ and Anita Roddicks ‘Business As Usual’.
 

- Favourite quotes: “When you see someone putting on his Big Boots, you can be pretty sure that an adventure is going to happen.” - Winnie The Pooh / “A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” - Chinese Proverb. The use of quotes in the nursery to emphasise the philosophy.
 

- What’s the key to success? How the staff team are the key to theirs. 

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“This goes for over the years when we ran Kidsunlimited and now. We would be nowhere without the amazing staff that we employed and employ now. They are the key to our success.”

Jeannie Pickering

Episode Resource Links:

Reggio Emilia Approach https://www.reggiochildren.it/en/reggio-emilia-approach/loris-malaguzzi/

 

Roger Stephensons Summerfields Nursery http://www.stephenson-studio.com/architecture/summerfields-nursery/ 

 

Roger Stephensons St Marys Nursery http://www.stephenson-studio.com/architecture/st-marys-nursery/ 

 

Ikigai Japanese Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikigai

 

Klean Kanteen Drinking Container https://www.kleankanteen.co.uk/

 

The McGoff Group https://www.mcgoffgroup.com/

 

New Care https://www.mcgoffgroup.com/services/operate/newcare/

 

David Williams https://www.nationalcareforum.org.uk/david-williams

 

Old Peoples Homes for 4 Year Olds Channel4 https://www.channel4.com/programmes/old-peoples-home-for-4-year-olds

 

St Monica Trust https://www.stmonicatrust.org.uk/our-expertise/news-and-blog/2019/trusts-participation-in-old-peoples-home-for-4-year-olds-featured-in-new-book

 

Podcast with David Williams https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/david-williams-how-to-make-intergenerational-activities/id1270165712?i=1000436550208

 

Babies on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80117833

 

100 Languages Of Children Book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hundred-Languages-Children-Experience-Transformation/dp/0313359814

 

‘Business As Usual’ - Anita Roddick https://www.amazon.co.uk/Business-As-Unusual-Journey-Roddick/dp/0722539878

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Recorded at LBS, Stockport. https://lbs.co.uk/

Producer: Simon Galloway https://uk.linkedin.com/in/simongalloway

Original Music written by Sadie Pickering, performed by Sadie Pickering, Dan J Logan and Jay Ansill

 

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Website: https://www.backtothegardenchildcare.com/podcast/

 

Episode #2

CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE EARLY YEARS

with Anne Statham

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“Children are very alert to the emotional atmosphere of a space so our job is to make them feel safe and to be constant for them.” 

Intro:

In this episode we welcome childcare professional Anne Statham onto the show. She is a qualified teacher and consultant who has worked with children in their early years since 1995. Anne has an MA in early years studies and practices and a Forest School Leader Level 3. She has a creative ‘child-led’ approach to early childhood education and currently works at Back To The Garden Childcare in Broadheath. Anne has a 7 year old son. 

 

We discuss her experiences working in childcare and what led her to pursue this enriching career and the inspirational people and places that were key to her own development. How the seeds of the values she feels are important today were planted in the early 1900s, that the ideas of ‘Back To The Garden’ have deep roots.

 

Her warmth and true passion for her job shines through. It’s a fascinating episode which covers so many topics. Not to be missed!

 

“Children in this generation need to be creative in the widest sense. Creative not just in an artistic sense but creative in making links in all areas of learning.”

 

*Please note: This recording was made before the lockdown. The nursery is currently open for key workers and vulnerable children whilst offering online support to parents with children who are home learning.

In this episode we discuss:

1:11 Annes earliest memories for her in her early years in the 70s with plenty of freedom through outdoor play, creativity and community. (3:10) How this differs for children today, Anne references her son’s childhood experiences and how there is more structure now.)

5:00 How we can navigate a perhaps ‘scarier’ world where children aren’t able to be as free due to potential threats and more traffic and what kind of effect this has had on parenting style.

 

5:42 Annes involvement with Back To The Garden Childcare and how she was part of the vision for the nursery. Anne was interested in their child-led approach which she believes is a strong foundation. At every step in the journey the team would refer back to the values laid down at the very start. 

 

6:29 How a goal for children to be ‘independent’ filters through the choices made from the environment, to self-serving at mealtimes, to the curriculum. The nursery team are responsive to the child as individuals and construct the activities around them. 

 

7:14 The environment and use of open-ended materials. 

 

7:52 What led Anne to become an early years specialist. 

 

9:12 Reggio Emilia, the 100 Languages of children and importance of the ‘art of listening’. 

 

10:33 How we talk to children and how we approach them when they’re in a creative flow state.

 

13:36 Anne continues on from before to share her learning journey following her first initial role. She shares the final placement of her post graduate course, how the McMillan sisters inspired that school and how this was key to Anne discovering and cultivating her own values within the childcare she wanted to be part of.

 

17:50 The exploration of ‘power’ in early years and the school system in general. How creativity and is a vital skill to be nurtured in children today and what drives creativity. 

 

20:22 The balance of allowing children some time with technology and brain development in children. How to build strong neural pathways and connections in children during their early years and why this gives them strong foundations.

 

23:51 The benefits of outdoor play and how Anne integrates outdoor play at home with her family.

 

25:00 Pressure of meeting a set of standards for children and he value of time and space for them to ‘just be’. How the outdoor space is useful in settling children into the nursery. 

 

26:09 Taking risks outdoors.

 

28:28 Exploring further the Froebel philosophy. (Referenced Tina Bruce). How being in the moment and understanding that child development isn’t linear takes unnecessary pressure off parents and children. Discuss the example of writing (29:50). Scandinavian schools (30:08). Reading (32:02).

 

33:17 The power of the picture book and how enjoyment and pleasure needs to run alongside the mechanical part of reading.

 

34:34 Childrens mental health and support them with their emotions. The importance of adults caring for children taking care of themselves too. The need for natural moments of solitude and how children find ways to have quiet time to themselves and that ‘boredom’ is a good thing sometimes. 

 

Rapid Fire Questions:

 

42:01 Who inspired Anne along the way/

 

43:50 The nursery team and values.

 

45:53 Finding a work / life balance between being a childcare professional and a mother.

 

48:17 If money time and logistics were no object what Anne would create for children.

 

48:48 What rights should children innately have.

 

49:22 Her favourite book on child development.

 

49:44 The feeling Anne has when working with children.

 

50:20 What she believes is the most important skill in early years education.

 

50:35 Her favourite quote on child development.

 

50:48 Annes advice to someone who was wanting to get involved in early years education.

 

51:56 Her advice for parents looking for a nursery.

Episode Resource Links:

Book: ’Simplicity Parenting: Using the Extraordinary Power of Less to Raise Calmer, Happier, and More Secure Kids’  Kim John Payne

 

Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity?language=en

 

Margaret McMillan - Early Years Pioneer: https://www.mdpi.com/2313-5778/3/3/43/htm

 

The 1906 Provision Of School Meals Act http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1906/57/enacted

Unicef Rights of the Child: https://www.unicef.org.uk/child-rights-partners/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/08/CRC_summary_leaflet_Child_Rights_Partners_web_final.pdf

 

Sure Start Childrens Centre: https://hsm.manchester.gov.uk/kb5/manchester/directory/service.page?id=ll0ZyWXVJSs&directorychannel=1-10

 

“Childhood is seen as valid in it self, as part of life and not simply as preparation for adulthood.  Thus education is seen similarly as something of the present and not just preparation and training for later.” https://www.early-education.org.uk/about-froebel

 

Tina Bruce on Froebel: https://www.nurseryworld.co.uk/features/article/eyfs-best-practice-all-about-friedrich-froebel

 

Author, Michael Rosen: https://www.michaelrosen.co.uk/books/

 

Children’s Mental Health Week: https://www.royal.uk/duchess-cambridges-message-mark-place2be-children%E2%80%99s-mental-health-week-2020


Ranulph Fiennes quote: ‘There’s no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing’

 

The Colour Monster Book: https://www.booktrust.org.uk/book/t/the-colour-monster/

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Recorded at LBS, Stockport. https://lbs.co.uk/

Producer: Simon Galloway https://uk.linkedin.com/in/simongalloway 

Original Music written by Sadie Pickering, performed by Sadie Pickering, Dan J Logan and Jay Ansill

 

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Website: https://www.backtothegardenchildcare.com/podcast/

Episode #3
 

THE FOUNDERS SERIES:

Chris McGoff

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“Family values are things that are very important to us, and that’s helped drive the business.” 

Intro:

With over 45 years of construction excellence, The McGoff Group is a well established, highly experienced multi-faceted collection of like minded business which work together to develop and create community.

 

New Care was founded in 2010 and is unparalleled within the care sector, with 7 operational care homes including Bramhall Manor which has a contract with the NHS and council in Stockport.

 

Downtown, a Manhattan-inspired apartment development in Manchester City Centre is also under their portfolio. The 374 apartments were all sold off-plan and the development has recently reached build completion.

 

In 2017 The McGoff group joined forces with Jeannie and Stewart Pickering to found Back To The Garden Childcare where the first nursery opened in Broadheath in 2018. Their latest venture Market 41, a new venture for the group, will be an indoor food market in Urmston.

 

Today's guest is Chris McGoff, Director at The McGoff Group and CEO of New Care Corporate.

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“Our primary driver to both disciplines and operations is quality. We want to provide the very best quality that we can do, to promote the best outcome for whether it’s an elderly person living out their remaining years in a really nice setting to a young kid taking their first steps outside their family home to independence.”

In This Episode We Talk About:

1:19 Chris’s earliest childhood memory.

 

4:04 Chris’s family life and working from home.

 

5:45 The Mission of the McGoff Group and how it has evolved over the years. Beginning with his parents starting as a contracting business serving the leisure sector and the journey that led it to becoming more development based.  

 

8:39 Why the McGoff Group decided to add a nursery to the portfolio. Chris and his wife, a trained Montessori teacher always had a personal interest in nurseries/schools. The group built nursery buildings for other companies to operate. One of these relationships was with Jeannie and Stewart Pickering on Kidsunlimited projects. The next step was to become their own operator “properator” to own the property and operate it, joining forces with Jeannie and Stewart.

 

13:47 The mission of the nursery and also the care homes and the philosophy of the design. Why flexible spaces are important. 

 

16:04 The design of the Broadheath nursery and also Lymm and how they are similar/different. The importance of the outdoor spaces and the Tipi and how this is a signature part of the Back To The Garden brand. 

 

18:07 The Partnership with the NHS, beginning with The Grand, a care home in West Bridgford, Nottingham and more recently Bramhall Manor, coined by the press as the ‘Nightingale of the North’. How this supports the NHS by easing demand on hospitals.

 

23:03 How the current COVID-19 crisis has effected the care homes and the nursery. What it means to the group to be helping support the NHS, in the various ways they do, and also the struggles that came with this and how they overcame obstacles through their proactive approach. Why continuity has been so important and how it has made them an even better business and allowed them to evolve all policies. 

 

26:30 The Benefits of Intergenerational care. How the McGoff Group are working to help bridge the gap. Where they first came across the concept. Why Lymm is the perfect place to do it. The mental and physical wellbeing benefits they’ve seen from cross-generational activities with residents at the Sale care home and the nursery children at Broadheath. 

 

32:19 A moving story about one of the care home residents and how the team made his ambition to get back to Old Trafford a reality. 

 

33:41 How the McGoff Group contribute to the planet and the sustainability that comes from being a ‘one-stop shop’. 

 

35:46 What it’s like working in a family business and how this has contributed to their success. Why trust, integrity and family values are important to them and how they’ve created an ‘extended family’ of long standing relationships built over time in the industry. 

 

39:10 Chris’s advice to someone with a vision to build a business. 

 

39:42 What Chris would build for children/the elderly if money/time/logistics were no object.

 

40:29 What universal lesson should be taught to children/the elderly. 

 

41:11 What rights should children and the elderly should both have.

 

41:30 What superpower he would have as a parent.

41:47 The most important ingredient to running a business.

42:00 What Chris is most grateful for. 

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“The older generation have so much real-time history to pass on.”

Episode Resource Links:

Twitter: @ChrisMcGoffManc

 

https://www.mcgoffgroup.com/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/10/scotland-eyes-outdoor-learning-as-model-for-reopening-of-schools

 

https://www.carehomeprofessional.com/the-big-interview-chris-mcgoff-ceo-new-care/ 

 

https://awards.hsj.co.uk/

 

https://www.ilovebramhall.com/bramhalls-very-own-nhs-nightingale/

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Recorded via Zoom and edited at LBS, Stockport. https://lbs.co.uk/

Producer: Adders Jeffry 

Original Music written by Sadie Pickering, performed by Sadie Pickering, Dan J Logan and Jay Ansill

 

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Website: https://www.backtothegardenchildcare.com/podcast/

 
Episode #4

Balancing Entrepreneurship and Being a Mum 

with Kate Mosley

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“Children are so non-judgmental, they show so much love to you, you can be silly with them and they’ll laugh along with you. That’s the beauty of children.” 

Intro:

The Garden Eatery created the menu for Back To The Garden Childcare and todays guest is Kate Mosely is the co-founder of The Garden Eatery, Hale. She started the business with her best friend, Amy Sheperdson in 2014 and it’s grown from strength to strength with a loyal local community of customers, it’s also become a destination hot spot for health and wellness and has a strong following online. Her husband Chris joined the team in 2017, focusing on the commercial kitchen premises for the cold pressed juices, smoothies and raw cakes & bakes. Kate is also a yoga teacher working in Hale and Altrincham as well as online. She gave birth to twins, Winnie and Rupert in December 2017. Kate now balances being a mum to both her children and also her business baby. Her passion for healthy living, nourishing foods, sustainability and love of life comes through all that she does. She’s a wonderful soul and pleasure to have as a guest on the show.

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“Had i slowed down, honoured the transformation my body was going through I really do think I wouldn’t have experienced the anxiety i did when i was in the post-natal period.”

In This Episode We Talk About:

01:18 A pivotal moment during Kate’s childhood.

02:38 Kates early years education. 

3:25 How working in the wrong career led to Kate to discover something she was truly passionate about, working with children and how that led to her becoming a primary school teacher.

6:55 The skills Kate developed during teaching that she uses now at The Garden and as a mother. Here we also discussing social media, judgement culture and authenticity online.

10:27 Why yoga has been a huge part of her journey and how she became a yoga teacher. Here we also discussed her passion for healthy eating and how The Garden came to fruition through a vision, action and belief that it would work out even after their proposal was initially rejected. 

“Even when we were initially rejected I just knew that it wasn’t the end. It’s just this weird feeling around the whole thing that it was the right thing to do, this universal pull in the right direction, never wavering in my faith that it was all going to work out.”

17:40 Hurdles they overcame in their business and the positive lessons that came from situations that were a struggle. 

“I’ve learnt the most lessons in my whole life in the last few years, just how to deal with people, the public and staff. The struggles of working with friends but also how to maintain the same friendship that you always had and the love you have for each other but also know that you are going to have differences and different opinions. That’s been a huge hurdle but we are so much stronger the other side of it. The best relationships are tested to the max. We’ve got a special relationship because of what we’ve been through together.”

 

20:55 Kates passion for sustainability and how this manifested in the Love Your Mother campaign, a collaboration with Klean Kanteen, to raise awareness around the planet and Mother Nature. The anxiety Kate felt after having twins, and spending less time in The Garden and how this time away enabled her to get her creative juices flowing.

 

24:04 Sustainability within The Garden and how they’ve used compostable packaging since day one. Also their values around supporting small independents and here we discuss organic produce.

“Since the day we’ve been open we used compostable packaging even though it costs more we’ve always used that, this was way before everyone else realised it was necessary. It’s been part of our values since the beginning. To have a minimal impact as best we can.”

 

27:27 Motherhood. Kate shares her pregnancy journey and struggles with anxiety and why she loves to help mothers-to-be through teaching pregnancy yoga.

“I probably did the worst thing you could do and worked until 2 weeks before I had the twins, at the same level as I’d worked before and I had to do that to learn a huge lesson. My pregnancy has informed the way I teach pregnancy yoga now. Having been through it all and known how I pushed my body to the maximum limit when I was carrying twins and I was creating life, has taught me the huge lesson that being pregnant is the time to slow down and honour your body.”

 

33:28 Kate shares her diet during pregnancy. Folic Acid was the supplement Kate couldn’t recall that she took. 

 

35:50 When Kate returned to work following the birth of the twins.

 

36:30 What being a mother has taught her.

 

38:29 Healthy eating for the twins and why she has a relaxed approach now. 

 

40:24 Activities for the children - at home and nursery.

“They love being outside, they love exploring, they love bugs and nature. They put their all into anything they do.”

 

43:04 The twins sleep habits.

 

45:48 Work/life balance for Kate and Chris and how they manage this, Kate chooses to have phone free time. Why communication is key.

“It’s so easy to fall into the trap of the blame culture within a family, and often we’re a mirror to each other. Often if I feel I’m not being supported and if I truthfully look at him and think ‘am I being supportive to him?’ then the answers probably no.”

 

50:24 Her guilty secret as a mum

 

51:32 How lockdown has affected The Garden. The support they’ve had from customers. How it has meant that they’ve been able to grow the online side of the business selling juices and delivering meals to help certain customers living alone that struggled during this time.

 

54:10 Lockdown what learnt to live without.

 

55:06 Here we discuss the Black Lives Matter Movement and why Kate is passionate about learning. Kate shares what she’s currently working on within herself through the Rachel Cargle 30 Day ‘Do The Work’ course (link below) and her hopes for the future. Why she loves being an ambassador for Lululemon and how they were running workshops on white privilege earlier in the year and Kate shares the next book on her reading list. 

 

01:00:29 Kate discusses things she’s doing with the twins on this subject. 

 

01:01:40 Rapid fire - 
Her inspiration at the moment  
If money, time and logistics were no object what she would create for children 
What universal lesson should be taught to children around the world
What rights should children innately have 
Advice to someone setting up a business 
What she’s most grateful for 
and lastly, when she is her most zen

“Being a mother has taught me patience. There’s no right way of doing things. You’ve got your way, I’ve got my way, everyones got their own way. I think, as soon as you align yourself with that and don’t try and be anyone else or try anyone else’s suggested ways of parenting then the sooner you can align with your own inner wisdom.” 

Episode Resource Links:

Follow Kate at: @soul_yogi (pregnancy yoga)


Follow The Garden at: @thegardeneatery (order juices online - cafe open from the 4th of July)

Take A Walk On The Wild Side (blog) https://www.backtothegardenchildcare.com/post/take-a-walk-on-the-wild-side-with-kate-mosley

 

Deliciously Ella App https://deliciouslyella.com/app/

 

Love your mother campaign https://thegardeneatery.co.uk/collections/love-your-mother

 

Cater Creative https://www.catercreative.com/about

 

Inhale yoga studio http://www.inhaleyoga.co.uk/

 

Rachel Cargle 30 Day ‘Do The Work’ Course https://www.rachelcargle.com/

 

Lululemon https://www.lululemon.co.uk/en-gb/home

 

This Will Be My Undoing: Living at the Intersection of Black, Female, and Feminist by Morgan Jerkins

 

Ten Little Fingers and Ten Little toes by Men Fox and Helen Oxenbury

 

Miniland dolls https://www.minilandgroup.com/en/educational/dolls-figures/

 

I Can See Clearly Now by Wayne Dyer 

Thank you for listening! 

 

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This episode is sponsored by Kit + Kin, award winning nappies - head to https://kitandkin.com/ and enter the code BABY20 specially created for our listeners to use on the first subscription.  


Recorded via Zoom and edited at LBS, Stockport. https://lbs.co.uk/

Producer: Adders Jeffry 

Original Music written by Sadie Pickering, performed by Sadie Pickering, Dan J Logan and Jay Ansill

 

Podcast hosting service - https://anchor.fm/backtothegarden


Website: https://www.backtothegardenchildcare.com/podcast/

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